At that point, I had to leave. Romans 3:23 is real, ALL have sinned, so why get so bent out of shape and spend years and good energy talking about the sin when were called to spread the gospel, the good news. BDave - it is more than rumor. Craig Martindale was VP pet. Cults, a cult of any kind, is akin to mental rape. We chose to follow the state leaders decision of mark and avoid and to continue with The Way. Since 2000 Way leadership appears to have kept itself clean in regard to sexual abuses. Some of these girls were underage. In 1997, we sold our home on which we had a mortgage. Plus theres a lot of word salad going on by the leader. The Word is a phrase Wierwille used to refer to the Bible. In my mind, by choosing to leave, I would be playing the Judas role three times (the number three Biblically representing complete) and breaking a salt covenant (worthy of death according to Old Testament standards) which I had taken in 1981 at a Way Advanced Class Advance. He and his wife, Kim, live a quiet life in northern California, punctuated by "spending a lot of time walking the dog." Asked if he still enjoys golf, Morton chuckled and said, "None of my body parts work well . But the long term affects for me have cost me a lot to include a lot of therapy. As of 2017, I still work as a studio assistant, but I stepped down from being the manager around 2011 when I established a pet-sitting business which has been successful and another therapeutic outlet. By The main reason I hired him was because of what had happened at the ex-Way online forum. Three of those crossroads coincided with three major Way exoduses when followers left en masse around 1987, 1989, and 2000. Adultery by The Way leadership is nothing new to any church/society. You are stupid, clueless, and scared. Funeral services will be 7:00 pm. Tryin to make a Buck! Bruce left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Whatever it wasmartindale slithered out of headquarters in the dead of night. Because your leaders are so holy, spiritual, above reproach but are easily manipulated by sexy devious women. Get and keep your own life in order. As I said I wish her well. We all fall short, but VPW said, dont look on him, but on the Lord Jesus Christ. Women should definitely be quiet and let the head of the family, i.e. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Frank is similar to me, in that he relishes the truth, not fabricated contention. A fun day shooting with Pet Pals TV for a segment. Anyone who did ask was immediately confronted. The Way Corps was formed a few years later. He was only a man and as he taught, dont take what he says, read it for yourself in Gods Word. She wrote a memoir. She was in The Way International from 1970 to 1987. In October, 2005, after 28 years of loyalty and serving as a lay leader at various levels for over fifteen of those years, I exited The Way. But this time was not in AWOL fashion as I had attempted two times before in previous decades. Parlato has been prominently featured on HBOs docuseries The Vow and was the lead investigator and coordinating producer for Investigation Discoverys The Lost Women of NXIVM. In addition, he was credited in the Starz docuseries 'Seduced' for saving 'slave' women from being branded and escaping the sex-slave cult known as DOS. VP told Craig he was king and to consider Way women his harem. So, you see, I am no neophyte in this venue. During my 49th year, I started blogging, before people really knew what blogging was all about. Jesus associated himself with the Nisians, which was considered a cult of his day. VP was a human scavenger, and sexual predator. Our mortgage had been under $500 per month. After a personal tragedy left her bereft, teenaged Charlene rejected faith and family when recruiters drew her into The Way International, a sect led by the charismatic Victor Paul Wierwille. I never saw it, but I did suspect my twig leader [A twig is an organizational term and consists of about 10 members] of being unfaithful to her husband because of her overly flirtatious, touchy-feely manner with a new male recruit for the Way]. Do you begin to see the complexity, the drip, drip of it all yet how it always boils down to power, sex and money? He invited us to go to Ohio for the Power for Abundant Living Class. Loy Craig Martindale 5555 WIERWILLE ROAD NEW KNOXVILLE, OHIO 45871-0328 Executive List of companies where Loy Craig Martindale was involved. Jesus cults, like cults in general, make me want to puke. Through the subsequent years, we stayed busy meeting the challenges of me living with chronic illness, helping to care for my quadriplegic father, and raising our children. I dont know if youve heard of all of those, but they would have been easy to miss I didnt actually run across them at a smaller college I attended, but only later when I went to a large university for graduate school, and other than on campuses I think they only really had a presence in big cities. I know of Cults who make it impossible to leave and will hunt you down to get you back. After I left in 2005, we learned that other top leaders had been aware of or involved with the abuse of authority in regard to sex; it had been rampant among the inner circle of top leaders. Again, I knew nothing of this at the time. That guy was a vicious bastard then and obviously his true nature was finally exposed. They were ignored or, get this, blamed, by other clergy whose role it was to help and counsel. 17 years is a long time! Thanks for sharing your experience with another group. On the flip side, Ive discovered freedom to think for myself and to consider ideas outside Way doctrine. The Lions boss knows he cannot compete with other clubs financially but hopes Livingston . What a waste of human life and air space. Same road but across the main thoroughfare. It evolved between 250-300 A. D. So, if God really had spoken those words to Wierwille, either God forgot those facts, or Wierwille was playing fast and loose with them. The other crossroad was the most difficult. VP was always about money and control. Martindale warned his followers of the dangers of breaking commitments to the ministry by saying one would be " a grease spot by midnight" if he forsook his oaths. Damn. They were well-respected in the Ministry and had held various top leadership positions. I figured it out. A Leader in Legal Innovation. And Bullinger, PFAL, or any of his plagiarized pre-school level Bible books. Its like my brain didnt matter anymore and I was only good to meet his needs (in every way). I no longer participate, and have never been harrased, asked, or dragged into going back. We wafers are NOT members we were willing participates in a belief system that made more sense than ANY other religion that exists on the earth today. Daniel Craig had one request for Bond producers before accepting role. Suicides. Since exiting, Ive cycled, and recycled, through a myriad of emotions including periods of bitterness and rage, a deep sense of overwhelming loss and grief and loneliness, identity issues, the feeling of being shattered, and feelings of shame and self-blame regarding certain personal decisions and my blindness to manipulations. On 9/18/2015 at 2:26 PM, DontWorryBeHappy said: Cat whispering, If these things occurred within the ministry, they sinned against their own bodies but if God is willing to forgive those who ask with a heart of humility who are you to not do the same. One example of that was our decision to home school. If followers heard about some of these allegations, we dismissed them as lies or rumors or innuendo directed by the adversary. Beginning in the late 1990s, followers were charged to stay off any sites on the internet that were critical of The Way. I joined the ministry in 1974 and I still have my books and other written materials that are based on the truths of Gods words. In January, 2014, his license was revoked. Like any set of folk tales, its not without interest, there are even some nice stories in there, once you skip the smiting and the incest. mcds4, Otherwise, you come across as intolerant and a belief cop. From there his ministry took off. She ignored warning signs of Wierwilles paranoia and abuse he condemned dissenters as the Devils agents, he required followers to watch pornography, he manipulated Corps into keeping his secrets in a lock box, he denied the Holocaust, and he surrounded himself with bodyguards. Contact Frank with tips or for help. Stiles titled, The Gift of the Holy Spirit.. For the most part, life is good, and certainly much larger than when I was a Way believer. Professor Emerita of Sociology at California State University, Chico, author ofBounded Choice: True Believers and Charismatic Cults, A tenderly written, intensely personal narrative about being swallowed alive by a cult. And then, when I left, it was for my children. Not only did twi's BOD keep moving the goal posts on what it meant to receive 1) emeritus statusversus 2) retired status..rivenbark wanted (requested) to assign them to writing articles or work projects in their retirement years. Sex is not something to be ashamed of. There have been times Ive doubted my departure and have missed the camaraderie with Way believers; there are still good people who remain loyal to The Way. Perhaps you didnt realize that some people can be that evil while teaching the Word of God, i.e., the Bible from a Fundamentalist approach. Oddly no woman is to hold positions of authority per the Way since they taught woman is for man and man is for God. Its available in paperback and eBook at major booksellers. But I couldnt care less about L.Ron having had courier girls dressed in shorts and go-go boots. In addition, even I, without any theological training, understood that their stating that there were four thieves at the crucifiction was a false argument: Why would the soldiers break one thiefs legs, then the others, *then* come back to Christ? Well, because he was the main attraction, as it were. My husband and I had also developed a bond with our state leaders, a married couple who were early Corps graduates. Visionary Homes is part of the Commercial & Residential Construction industry, and located in Utah, United States. I lived in 4 way homes and when things went wrong, we stayed up until they got right or the individual causing the issue had to move on. Me. Kind of waters down your argument using profanity. Howard was his flunky. Publication date 2021-12-19 Topics remnant-of-grace-god-bible-l.-craig-martindale. But please dont think your experience was all there was. Just a thought. L. Craig Martindale. I had to figure out whom I could trust. 1) He claimed God told him He would teach him The Word like it had not been known since the first century if he would teach it to others. We all have to one day stand before the judgement seat. His primary fundraising goal was for Cal's new football facility, which opened in 2011. http://gscafe.com/groupee/forums?q=Y&a=tpc=9676051151&p=1. Your previous content has been restored. A native of Hopewell, Mississippi, he was the son of the late Kelton and Syble Proctor McAlister. Your link has been automatically embedded. The Moonies college front group CARP was also a presence on campus, as were the LaRouchies, and maybe TM. Hinted-at marital infidelity seems to be the most serious accusation. I mean, women really are open to devil spirits arent they? Drambuie and Cool unfiltered cigarettes were VPs constant companion. Martindale, on the other hand, was ousted from office and stripped of his corps/clergy titles..and receives a lifetime $65,000 pension. For five months, since May, 2005, I had been seriously researching how to exit, in case this time would come. Because it would bury them forever! My husband and I chose to eclectically home school our children. It took another five years to become comfortable with my agnosticism. At one point, and she may still be, she was involved in some group having to do with the female orgasm as some spiritual passageway to enlightenment. Rosie was concerned for, interested in, and needed his wife. At each of those three crossroads, we chose to do whatever our immediate leadership chose to do, which was to stay with The Way. Last I looked, Jesus was the only perfect person to walk on this earth. Apparently, that didn't work out, because he later worked in construction when he visited the United States. Paste as plain text instead, She knows that if she goes down in flames, so does loyboy. CRAIG MARTINDALE OBITUARY Craig Royal Martindale 1950 - 2018 Craig Royal Martindale, 67, passed away peacefully in Salt Lake City on January 22, 2018. Contact Frank with tips or for help. L Craig Martindale: Living Water Series - 12 sessions August 7, 2021-October 23, 2021. The good and evil dichotomy was difficult to wrap my mind around as Id try to reconcile it. He provided a stable anchor for my life, for which I am eternally grateful. Or off is a TV channel. My husband also had two different job changes during that time. . I lived in a Way house. Frank relishes contention, even fabricated contention which is ridiculous. Martindale said he was "glad" to have the opportunity to meet with the Colts and called team owner Jim Irsay a "very fascinating guy," but he indicated there were some areas where he and . Loy Craig Martindale (age 74) is currently listed at 2145 Timber Creek Dr Apt E, Toledo, 43615 Ohio and is affiliated with the Republican Party. They told him he had to have at least a much larger amount by law. It is NOT a cult. VP was always about money and control. Cults are like onions, with outer and inner layers. I say go for it, L.Ron. While I managed to come to Christ despite it, I can recall that what put my back up the most, even at 20, was that I was not allowed to take notes nor ask questions. Apr 1, 2011 I love Gods Word. Reading like a novel, Undertowis not only a brilliant cautionary tale about misplaced faith but also an expos of the hazards of fundamentalism and the destructive nature of cults. Publication date 2018-11-01 Topics remnant, grace, word of God, L. Craig Martindale. Parlato appeared on the Nancy Grace Show, Beyond the Headlines with Gretchen Carlson, Dr. Oz, American Greed, Dateline NBC, and NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt, where Parlato conducted the first-ever interview with Keith Raniere after his arrest. However, I later found myself in a web of unhealthy relationships with some of the key participants and in a maze of suspicion which included false or mistaken allegations toward myself and others. Within six monthsof this loosened grip, Martindale resigned as president after his public admission to Way believers that he had been involved in a consensual affair and due to an out-of-court settlement regarding (in part) sexual harassment. Ive learned to reasonably trust myself again. The Way International, of which I was involved for 12 years, did this and more. There is something in this book for anyone who has ever wholeheartedly embraced a questionable theology, only to find that what was meant as a salve eventually becomes a sword. Susan Campbell,author ofDating Jesus: A Story of Fundamentalism, Feminism, and the American Girl, Charlene Edges heartfelt and heartbreaking memoir takes us behind the scenes to reveal how easily a handful of religious charlatans betrayed the trust placed in their hands. The list could go on and on. It had a seal of approval for sex in which leaders who do their Bible research said it was OK to have plenty of sex before marriage. WOW in Kalamazoo, MI? It was a complex predicament for my husband and me. Craig Martindale's Email Addresses & Phone Numbers. Two years later, in September, 2010, due to boundary violations (none were sexual), I filed an official complaint with the therapists state licensing board. Couldn't even tell his wife was a lesbian. If that was true, it's not too much of a stretch to suppose that, also by law, LCM would rate SOMETHING as severance pay for his 18 yrs as pres, and the 65K was what he and twis lawyers agreed upon. Mark and avoid ended their relationship. There's more than a passing resemblance between "Cocaine Bear" and "Wet Hot American Summer.". Abuse (to include sexual abuse) was rampant. The thought of a man listening and adhering to what God told them to write is incredible. From the latter 1980s through the 1990s, The Way became more and more controlling, step by step endeavoring (and most often succeeding) to meddle deeper and deeper into followers personal lives. This widespread progressive micromanagement, especially regarding time, commitment and obedience to the Ministry, personal finances, and shunning those who left, was due mainly to control tactics and doctrines gradually instigated during L. Craig Martindales tenure as the second president of The Way, a position he held from 1982 until 2000.
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