However, in working with a lot of people, a structured program might be needed to help walk out that healing and recovery. The prophets of Baal all believed in Gods existence and power (right before Elijah slaughtered them all). By working the 12 Steps and the 8 Beatitude Principles, issue groups open up, share experiences, and find hope . Oh yes, they mentioned God but even Mormons and Jehova witness mention God. So similar, in fact that each Principle is followed by a notation as to which of the 12 steps it corresponds to. I do not endorse anything on these sites that deviates from Scripture or conflicts with my beliefs as outlined in the Welcome or Statement of Faith tabs in the blue menu bar at the top of this page. If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ. Designed for those with "hurts, habits and hang-ups," as its slogan says, CR offers biblically-based encouragement and hope for change. We are told in Romans 12:2, "And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect." Repent and believe in the Gospel, cry out for mercy and forgiveness. For this reason, Jesus brings clarity to the scene with these corrections. Additionally, the Beatitudes were never intended to be a recovery program. From the History of Celebrate Recovery page on the CR website: Celebrate Recovery is the number one outreach ministry at Saddleback Church, with over 70 percent of its members now coming from outside the church.Celebrate Recovery is not just growing in churches, but in recovery houses, rescue missions, universities, and prisons around the world. December 2014 Heresy I basically drank everyday for 40 years. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Hello. People are addicted to things because they like it, and refuse to seek God for His help to remove their illicit desires forever-they would rather have the pleasure of their sin, no matter the cost. Treating the one who sinned and the one sinned against as though theyre the same by placing them in the same recovery program is damaging to both because it teaches the sinner hes not responsible for his actions and has no need to repent, and it teaches the one sinned against that shes no different from the one who sinned against her. 5:3-12), which are said to be eight ways to be happy, contain the progressive path to addiction recovery. No 12-step program needed. Absolutely not says researcher John Lanagan. The biblical means for helping a saved person who is committing the sin of drunkenness is to follow the steps of church discipline (beginning with a one on one call to repentance and restoration) commanded in Matthew 18, and if he repents, disciple him in obedience to Gods Word. May 2016 I dont agree with Rick Warren on a lot of things but this program works and the HolybSpirit uses those scriptures to deal with people. Matthew 27 John 4 This review is based upon the programs teaching as stated in the CR Leadership Guide only (pages cited are from this guide) and is not a critique of every person who has participated in the program. [13] A study of Celebrate Recovery participants published in 2011 by the Journal of Religion and Health, found that levels of spirituality were associated with greater confidence to resist substance use. Contents 1 History 2 Programs 3 Methods 4 Program fidelity constraints 5 See also 6 Notes 7 References 8 Further reading Most do not read their Bibles, and so these two programs become their false gospel. Many AA or CR members dont realize this!) Death February 2015 I cringed whenever Id hear someone say, Im (insert name), and Im a grateful follower of Jesus Christ! Celebrate Recovery CRs Road to Recovery begins with the Eight Principles Based on the Beatitudes (12), stated above. The man has sinned. Hope others read this and become aware of this organization. Eschatology (End Times) The program has impacted adults and teens all over the U.S. and across . Print. Commentators agree that the Beatitudes describe the common characteristics of true believers (e.g. Reformed Theology They tell sinners Jesus loves them, invite Him into your heart, make your decision, choose Jesus, get baptized, etc. John Baker and Rick Warren of Saddleback Church created the program in 1991 to help people with various addictions. Charles Spurgeon Hi Chad. Rather than finding their identity in Christ who has graciously saved them. "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." So that you can study what Gods word actually says in comparison to those well known 12 steps. The idea is that the sinner has come to terms with Gods towering moral standards for humanity; absolute perfection (cf.Matt. Anyway, thank you for helping me reach greater clarity about what we did. Gods Sovereignty CRs stated purpose is to encourage fellowship and to celebrate Gods healing power in our lives as we work our way along the road to recovery (21). A murderer can confess his crime, but feel completely justified in having done it, and be perfectly willing to do it again if given the chance. As far as I know, we never completely abandoned the message of repentance and faith, but I think all the psychology muddied the waters the executive director is now in a same sex marriage. The question we must ask ourselves is, should Christians get involved in a program that stems from A.A.s twelve steps? If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. March 2017 Sufficiency Of Scripture I pray the Lord will open your eyes to the apostasy you seem to be trapped in and bring you back to the narrow path of His truth. Ive been six months dry today. And, although it should go without saying, the Beatitudes arent about hurts, addictions, or recovery. Confess your sins to one another, is what the Bible says. Sin dominates the sinner and overpowers all. 11. He either never took the time to research the origins of the Twelve Steps and what they teach or he was intentionally making a false statement. Principle R1, the first half of V, and E2 arent bad. Have you actually read all the material? Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar.". 6:6 and Col. 1:13). Would you be ok with Celebrate Recovery if they stopped using the familiar 12 steps as a reference and only used the scripture verses? (LogOut/ Baker, Celebrate Recovery Leader's Guide, 12). Christian Recovery Programs He was instantly changed! Principle R2 is great if youre saved, since all Christians are supposed to be doing these things anyway. Catholicism (RCC) Some of the best known can be found in the blue menu bar at the top of this page at myPopular False Teacherstab. Another dangerous and unbiblical component of this concept of sin is hurting others is that the CR gospel conflates sinning against others with being sinned against under the banner of hurts. The Twelve Steps also falsely teach forgiveness of sins by a God of our own understanding while Christ is no part of the Alcoholics Anonymous Twelve Step program whatsoever. Johnny goes on to say that that [the indwelling Holy Spirit] is what gives us the power to find healing from our hurts, hang-ups, and habits. We are to stay on the narrow way which we cannot do without obeying God's Word. The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned, 1 Corinthians 2:14 (emphasis, mine) tells us. If youd like to check out some pastors and teachers I heartily recommend, click theRecommended Bible Teachers tab in the blue menu bar at the top of this page. God taught us this way back in Psalm 51 where David, repenting of his sin with Bathsheba said, Against You [God], You only, have I sinned and done what is evil in Your sight. God is the first, last, and ultimate object of our sin. Don't judge a book by it's cover. CRs 12 Steps are almost identical to the secular 12 steps. If you have never attended a Celebrate Recovery group before, you might be wondering, How do I know Celebrate Recovery even works? Why even invest time and commitment into something that might not be effective? If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. John 8:36, Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Romans 6:16. The ministry below is one Ive been asked about recently, so Ive done a quick check (this is brief research, not exhaustive) on it. The Word Proverbs 30:5,6 says, "Every word of God proves true; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. If God's word in scripture is sufficient and the final authority - then why would the Twelve Steps need to be added to it as CR does? Since our fall at the dawn of time, we have been naturally enslavement to every destructive behavior possible. People really need to get back to believing in the transforming power of Christ through true repentance and faith. I get lots of questions about particular authors, pastors, Bible teachers, ministries, and evangelical fads and trends, and whether or not I recommend them. The most dangerous thing Ive read on this subject is some people claiming they know who is saved for eternity and who isnt. Generally, the program runs on a one-year repeating schedule. At 20:11ff, Johnny quotes Romans 3:23, and then proceeds to define sin as mistakes. Testimonies ISSUE PAMPHLETS. Thoughts Needless to say, CR has had a major influence on the church. Johnny further describes sin as hurting other people and other people hurting us, and thats partially true, but thats where he stops. To learn how to forgive themselves , to love themselves as Christ loves them. Scripture Alone And a lost person cannot gain the power to follow His will without the indwelling Holy Spirit. God bless. Sober Recovery Expert Author. An Analysis of Celebrate Recovery Addictions Program Part 1 and Part 2 at The Cripplegate. 7,416,908 journeys have been made to this site. And the gospel is what we all need. January 2016 Homosexual Agenda Heres a nut shell result of genuine repentance: if your sin is not now repugnant to you then you have not really repented, but are only caught up in some sort of remorse for being busted and the fear you MAY feel is that of its consequences and not a fear of God whom you have sinned against. Holy Spirit Marriage They will hear Gods word and the gospel will be shared with them. New Age Eric Davis of The Cripplegate analyzes the popularpackaged addiction program, Celebrate Recovery (CR) that many churches have adopted. Rick Warren writes, [D]uring the ten-week series that I preached to kick off this program, our attendance grew by over 1500! (John Baker, Celebrate Recovery Leaders Guide, 12). It is common knowledge in AA that the co-founder Bill Wilson was involved in the occult and claimed openly to have communed with spirits. They may experience sobriety, but they will remain in bondage if they do not learn their identity in Christ and experience the power of Grace to overcome habitual sins. Rick Warren writes that CR was born when I began an intense study of the Scriptures to discover what God had to say about recovery. To my amazement, I found the principles of recoveryin their logical ordergiven by Christ in His most famous message, the Sermon on the Mount (12). In August 2004, Celebrate Recovery was announced as Californias state-approved substance abuse program for prisonsWe are part of a movement that God is blessing.. Page 11 of the Celebrate Recovery Bible states, "The Celebrate Recovery Bible is based on the eight principles and the underlying twelve Christ-centered recovery steps of the proven Celebrate Recovery program." Both sons remained his sons no matter what. Print. (LogOut/ The indwelling Holy Spirit is a sign, seal, and guarantee of our salvation, and salvation does not take place without the repentance of sin and placing ones faith in Christ. Below is a comprehensive directory of AA meetings in Wallace, North Carolina. No one can judge who is saved and who isnt because the person has fallen in life or the person is attending a program that others interpret as not biblical. Spriggs, J. David, and Eric Sloter. Needless to say, CR has had a major influence on the church. The Worst Part about Our Sin. Instead, Jesus teaches that one certain evidence of the true believer is a poverty of spirit. In 2020, the organization was present in 10 countries around the world. I dont care for what RW has become, and the direction he has taken. If the Gospel of Christ is left out of any program you can be assured that program DID NOT originate with God, nor will it be blessed by Him. Adapting worldly means and methods for use in the church (though characteristic of Saddleback) is not biblical. 5:48). Jehovahs Witnesses Celebrate Recovery (CR) was created by John Baker, a member of false teacher Rick Warrens Saddleback Church. There is an enormous difference between a man getting drunk and beating his wife half to death and a wife who has been beaten half to death by her drunkard husband. humbly ask Him to remove my character defects. And this I know. Who will replace retiring Rick Warren at Saddlebacks Helm? Did God forget something in His Word so that we humans had to come up with a program to help people instead? SMALL GROUP GUIDELINES. I left God but he never left me. The sinner simply asked Jesus to save him and Jesus said your faith has made you whole. If bible verses were added to Hitler's, Is adding to God's word by blending the Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous with the scriptures as the. But the Scriptures teach that all mans efforts will fail and the result of the failure will be worse for the man that depends upon his own efforts. Pastor John - Cheryl Baker; Pastor Johnny Baker; Jeni Baker; Mac - Mary Owen; Rodney - Carol Holmstrom Stepping out of Denial into God's Grace: Participant's Guide, 1. New Mexico was the first state to adopt Celebrate Recovery into its state prison system and now has Celebrate Recovery pods in all its state prisons. June 2015 Gospel The organization was founded in 1991 by John Baker, a former alcoholic staff member of Saddleback Church with the support of Pastor Rick Warren. Again, this is unbiblical. John 15:18-19, Do not be surprised, brothers, that the world hates you. Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. Reserve a daily time with God for self-examination, Bible reading, and prayer in order to know God and His will for my life and to gain the power to follow His will. Where in scripture is Jesus referred to as a generic "Higher Power"? The purpose is to focus on God's healing power through fellowship and community with others who are struggling with life's hurts, habits and hangups. The program began in Rick Warren's Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California, and is now used in churches around the world. It produces diligence to be sure no sin is left still covered by a fig leaf of denial; clearing of yourselves is round two of being sure nothing remains of any known sin; indignation toward yourself for having sinned against God; fear that you may return to your favorite sin out of rebellion; vehement desire to please God in all things and lay down your sins and the pleasure of them before your Savior; zeal so as to always keep yourself in check, away from sin and its pleasures; and vindication not of yourself, but on Gods behalf because He is once again proven to be right and righteous in all that He does. Rick Warren's statement above is completely false and it is irresponsible for any Christian Pastor to make such claims. Human Nature So, Matthew 5:3does not teach a principle for recovering from addictions, but that true believers understand that they cannot earn Gods favor from their impressive moral wealth, but have only earned his wrath by their offensive moral filth. God does not bless heresy and worldliness. Forgiveness CR is a safe place to find community and freedom from the issues that may be controlling your life. February 2016 Rick Warren: Purpose Driven Deception. A male teacher or pastor cannot allow women to carry out this violation of Scripture in his ministry. Ephesians 5:11tells believers, "Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them." July 2015 You gave such a positive outlook on CR, almost as if there are few if any failures. Ashley, Why do so many need a step based recovery program? I would never recommend CR to a fellow believer, no matter how popular it is. August 2017 Specifically, Blessed are the poor in spirit (Matt. Salvation Change). There are over 35,000 churches currently with a Celebrate Recovery ministry. Neither are they ways to be happy (12). Or what changes would need to be made for you to be a supporter of celebrate recovery? How very sad I feel for them (RW and co-authors). Notice the number of times he says We believe instead of the Bible says or simply stating the terms of the gospel as irrefutable fact. January 2017 I believe these facts are important to disclose when you are making claims against something. It was "born out of the heart of Saddleback Church" with Rick's approval and under his oversight, and, as you might expect, is fraught with unbiblical issues at nearly every turn. And if were walking in obedience to Scripture and preaching and teaching the true biblical gospel the world will hate us, not love us. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Angels, Demons, Spiritual Warfare October 2014, All Starting a Celebrate Recovery is an exciting step for your church! If you speak out bibically against this type of nonsense, you are labeled pharisee, or judgmental. Bill Wilson simply switched from booze to cigarettes, and died from emphysema. The common argument from proponents of Celebrate Recovery when presented with the truth of the twelve steps heretical origins is that because bible verses are used along with the Twelve Steps in Celebrate Recovery it is a Christian program - this defense is ridiculous. Come join us in the home of Celebrate Recovery, and let's make this event a one-of-a-kind experience that you will never forget. Celebrate Recovery is an American Christian twelve-step program designed to facilitate recovery from a wide variety of troubling behavior patterns. Baker, John, and Richard Warren. Are we to avoid all womens bible studies and Christian book studies as well? Apostasy. Not at all conducive to repentance! As a defender of AA and CR who claims to be Christian, you have to ask yourself - how could you ever claim the authority and sufficiency of scripture as 2 Timothy 3:16-17 teaches without being a hypocrite? What program should be recommended? Celebrate Recovery is an American Christian twelve-step program designed to facilitate recovery from a wide variety of troubling behavior patterns. They are all about getting help from the sins that are destroying us. Sins. Youll probably also notice that even though Johnny uses the word sin a few times, he never speaks in biblical terms about everyones need to repent of their sin. It would be better if CR actually cited and explained the Scriptures that teach these concepts and used biblical terminology, but overall these small snippets of the 8 principles are mostly aligned with Scripture. LISTEN to our Hospitality: Part 2 episode on @awordfitlyspoken! I have seen addictions brought under control, have seen fathers helped with addictions then start going to church and bring their whole families and the whole family get saved. But not to the point where it is unpleaseing to our lord. In todays post, this first problem will be demonstrated. Apostasy Is His gospel in His Word not enough? Baker, John, and Richard Warren. Journal of Psychology & Christianity 22.4 (2003). ! The worship music was embarrassing, to say the very least. The best first step to start a CR at your church is to contact your State Rep. Another great step when starting a CR is to attend a Training Conference. Romans 7 This post reminded me of that ministry. The question is not, Does Celebrate Recovery work?. As I said above, the first half isnt bad. Also, look who comes first here in this line of confession not God, but self. We also know that God can and does work through others to help us. The second half isnt going to work for lost people because it doesnt biblically identify their problem, which is sin, not character defects. Love What Good News? However, anytime there is Rick Warren and his Saddleback congregation involved, I balk at getting more into it due to the history of twisting scripture. If you are in danger of hurting yourself or someone else, please call: 911 - Emergency or 988 - Suicide & Crisis Lifeline or 1-800-273-8255. There has never been an inward change that manifests itself by good fruit. May 2020 The program, created by John Baker and Rick Warren, is supposedly based on biblical principles. I am not thoroughly familiar with the websites below. July 2020 I know , I was the saved son that fell into darkness and through other Christians and prayer I found my way back to Jesus. Celebrate Recovery leads us through the 12 Steps and the 8 Recovery Principles that guide us along the biblical path of opening ourselves up to and trusting in God's grace, through Jesus Christ, for bringing change and healing in our lives, so that we can know a substantial measure of peace & joy and as it says in the Serenity Prayer to be "reasonably happy" in this life. (Whats interesting is that the author of the 12 Steps from the 1930s died from an addiction. July 2016 The Bible puts those two people in two different categories and addresses them discretely and justly. In this process we come to accept that some of the habits we may have developed to escape our pain has caused destruction in our life and those close to us. These kind of statements turn away so many non believers. RW and CR go to great lengths to exclude the Gospel of Christ and the power of His resurrection despite their prolific use of Christian-ese speech and the quoting/misuse of Scripture. Celebrate Recovery is a safe place to find community and freedom from the issues that are controlling our life. The pastor or teacher cannot currently and unrepentantly be living in any other sin (for example, cohabiting with her boyfriend or living as a homosexual). For example, Principle 5 (V in the acrostic) corresponds to steps 6 and 7 of the secular 12 steps. Matthew 7:13 says, "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it." And the answer to that question is a resounding no. Fellowship How do I know? To claim spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection is not only unbiblical but could lead to spiritual uncertainty and backsliding. In 2004, the program was approved by the California Department of Corrections and entered prisons. Psalm19 The word poor was used to describe abject poverty and a raggedly covered (if covered at all) beggar, cowered over with head down and hand out (TDNT, 6:886), while in spirit refers to our moral/spiritual state. 1 John 3:13, They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. Celebrate Recovery is sponsored and supported by Word of Faith Family Worship Cathedral, Austell, GA. I have had totally different results from Celebrate Recovery and would recommend it to any one. Contrary to what the powers that be at CR think, that is not a good thing. Sorry to see you caught up in this unbiblical nonsense. Go preach the gospel - not go introduce the addicted to a Twelve Step program and then if all goes well try to get the gospel message in somewhere. September 2016 you cant help catching alcoholism (the sin of drunkenness) any more than you can help catching the flu. Below are the biblical criteria I use when deciding whether or not to recommend a teacher, ministry, etc. So, on the macro-level, CR has taken a worldly philosophy and attempted to Christianize it slightly in order to appeal to the lost, which, again is typical of the way Saddleback the original seeker driven church tends to operate, and which, as I mentioned earlier, is unbiblical. They'll say, "I don't know anybody that doesn't need recovery" where I often chimed in, "I don't know anyone who doesn't need Jesus." May 2017 Declan Pierce, a DJ who hosts Block Rockin' Beats on Dublin-based station Today FM, thanked staff who helped him after a brain haemorrhage. Principle Y takes us back into false gospel territory: Yield myself to God to be used to bring this Good News to others,both by my example and my words. Healing Spiritual perfection is defined as (United with God maturity development complete). Commentary, stories, and side notes have been added. CONNECT WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA. Friday. ; Hear LIVE and first-hand from years of expertise and wisdom on how to run a Celebrate Recovery effectively with practical tips from our team. All comments are handled manually, and I do not publish comments which promote false doctrine. In this particular segment, Johnny skips directly from Jesus died as a sacrifice for our sin, rose again, and lives now, to He sent the Holy Spirit to live inside of us. That is a false gospel. March 2015 Celebrate Recovery does not convey the gospel of Jesus Christ and is not needed. page): Another issue made plain in the video is that Celebrate Recovery teaches a false gospel: At 3:24ff, speaking to lost people, Johnny gives an incomplete (and partially false) presentation of the gospel as a means of differentiating secular recovery programs from CR. Not by a long shot. In my journey of recovery both in traditional 12 steps and at Celebrate Recovery I have witnessed participants struggle with religion and/or There god they were taught and I can respect traditional recoverys rule against focusing on any particular religion. Watch Pastor Johnny and Jeni explain what Celebrate Recovery is all about. Isaiah 17
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